Recently, rapist Eli Soriano attacked the Holy Rosary with his usual black and white logic, boo boo theology and false historical insinuation. No matter how much Soriano tries to attack Catholicism, his lies can not be logical let alone can they be consumed by the educated elites. He can only fool his blind followers alone.
Now let me refute his hallucinations regarding the Holy Rosary.I will provide point blank facts and refute this deranged criminal with little ease.
In his recent alibi here, the homosexual leader of the ADD man made cult says;
‘Many people are highly educated and yet they pray the Rosary.’
What does this imply? Is the Rosary a prayer for those who are not educated? This is comical.
“Did they know its history? Have they even questioned how it came to be?”
So what? Do they need to do so because Soriano has spoken? Who are you any way? Do you think educated people can change their minds regarding the Rosary because a homosexual rapist like you has spoken? Dear Mama Eli, stop being stupid.
“The truth is, it takes a fool to fool another fool. Once again, the concept of “veiled eyes” or “mind blinded by the god of this world” that the Bible talks about is proven true.”
You are the fool Mama Eli. Most people know that clearly. You are the fool because you are talking nonsense and are in hiding like a coward because of your homosexual crimes.Shame on you rapist.
We know ofcourse that your eyes are veiled because you are a false Preacher-yes a legend in false preaching. Your thinking capacity is similar to that of a cockroach. Your god is of this world because you are a homosexual rapist who teaches a false gospel of lies and damnation.Please Mama Eli do not impose on us your stupidity. You can rot in it as many times as you want.
” The Rosary is an invention of fools fooling other fools, and yet they don’t know it! “
Do not be silly Mama Eli. You are the fool fooling fools because you are a false preacher deceiving your poor followers. Both of you are blind.Can a blind lead a blind?
Regardless of what you say, St. Dominic whom the Rosary is associated with was more educated and wise than a coward than you. He was a famous preacher who excelled in liberal arts and theology during his studies at the University of Palencia.
Further to that, St.Dominic was a genius who had several ingredients. He was a charismatic leader, able to evaluate a situation and act decisively. He had confidence in his own ideals and in the people who shared them. His mind was sharpened by study, but before he wrote, lectured, or preached, he turned to God in prayer.
Mama Eli should stop being stupid in his alibis and focus on giving facts other than lies and truncated nonsense.
“If we base our belief on the definition written in the Modern Catholic Dictionary, we must first believe that there is a “mother of God” to whom devotional prayer is said through the rosary.“Mother” in the Bible means “the origin.”
So what? And this proves………what? Nonsense! It only proves that Soriano is stupid and ignorant. His heretical idea is repugnant to the whole theology of our justification; and by his literal interpretation of the Holy Scripture, he loses sight of the Divine economy of our redemption.
“Mother of God” as indicated in the Hail Mary implies Mary as Mother Of Jesus since Jesus is God. All Catholics know this unlike ofcourse Soriano and his blind followers.They are ignorant of the place which Mary occupies in the Divine plan, and of the importance of the consent which she gave to become the Mother of God; and they are therefore amazed at the language of the Saints, and unconvinced by the arguments used in support of her high prerogatives, while the expressions used in the Liturgy appear to them absurd and exaggerated. Are we responsible for that?
Soriono seems to think that Jesus is God but that Mary is not the mother of this God Jesus. His reasoning is upside down. I doubt if Soriano knows anything about “Theotokos”. In fact Soriano can be trapped in his own reasoning web, if he denies that Mary is not the Mother of Jesus, then may be he thinks she is the mother of something else. What Soriano thinks Mary is a mother to, he doesn’t reveal. If he thinks Mary is the mother of the Human Jesus, then He will prove the Humanity of Jesus and vice versa.
Mary gave birth to Jesus Christ, a ‘DIVINE PERSON’- Jesus who is God. Since Mary gave birth to a Divine person, that makes her the Mother of GOD. Jesus was God. Yes or No? So, logically, Mary was the mother of God. It is easy as that. No need for the stupidities of Soriano.
Then Soriano quoted this laughable verse in an effort to rebut-a clear example of misuse of Scripture.
“GENESIS 3:20 : And Adam called his wife’s name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.
This verse has nothing against Mary being Mother of Jesus-God. Once again Soriano woeful ignorance of Scripture is on the show here. He does not understand that “all living” implies “all mankind” or “human race”
Secondary, if we are to say that MARY is the Second Eve(and She is) then it would imply She is the Mother of all of us. An analogy can be drawn from this. Whereas Eve listened to the devil Lucifer and obeyed him, bringing sin and damnation into the world, Mary listened to the angel Gabriel and obeyed him, thus bringing grace and salvation into the world in the form of Jesus Christ. Mary and Jesus are forever linked together. So why don’t people like Soriano believe Mary is both the Mother of Jesus our God and also our Mother?
‘The term, “mother of God” will mean that Mary is the mother of all gods or the origin from where all gods came from!”
Stupid! Where is that mentioned in the Bible or in the verses Soriano is quoting? Dear Mama Eli, we do not need your stupid reasonings and personal opinions. Your opinions are your opinions because you are not a theologian or even one sent by God.You are mere rubbish.
“What an atrocious lie invented by the Roman Catholic Church!The belief that Mary is the “mother of God” did not come from Christ or from the Apostles! It is a doctrine invented in the year 431 by the Council of Ephesus, 400 years after the ascension of Christ, 300 years after the death of the apostles, the very time foretold by the apostles when heresies and doctrines of devils will abound.”
Ha ha ha! Stupid again Soriano. This is a lie and typical anti-Catholic rhetoric that Mama Eli is very good at without facts. It has not helped him because he copied it from an anti-catholic site. Am going to refute this easily;
Jesus is true God and Mary is the mother of Jesus and thus is the Mother of this God Jesus. God in these sense of God the Son. If this belief was invented in 431AD, why was it used from the first century to before the 4th Century? Patristically here is the evidence from Early Christians and Church Fathers of the use “Mother of God” before the 431AD;
“The Virgin Mary, being obedient to his word, received from an angel the glad tidings that she would bear God” (Against Heresies, 5:19:1 [A.D. 189]).
“[T]o all generations they [the prophets] have pictured forth the grandest subjects for contemplation and for action. Thus, too, they preached of the advent of God in the flesh to the world, his advent by the spotless and God-bearing (theotokos) Mary in the way of birth and growth, and the manner of his life and conversation with men, and his manifestation by baptism, and the new birth that was to be to all men, and the regeneration by the laver [of baptism]” (Discourse on the End of the World 1 [A.D. 217]).
Gregory the Wonderworker
“For Luke, in the inspired Gospel narratives, delivers a testimony not to Joseph only, but also to Mary, the Mother of God, and gives this account with reference to the very family and house of David” (Four Homilies 1 [A.D. 262]).
“It is our duty to present to God, like sacrifices, all the festivals and hymnal celebrations; and first of all, [the feast of] the Annunciation to the holy Mother of God, to wit, the salutation made to her by the angel, ‘Hail, full of grace!’” (ibid., 2).
Peter of Alexandria
“They came to the church of the most blessed Mother of God, and ever-virgin Mary, which, as we began to say, he had constructed in the western quarter, in a suburb, for a cemetery of the martyrs” (The Genuine Acts of Peter of Alexandria [A.D. 305]).
“We acknowledge the resurrection of the dead, of which Jesus Christ our Lord became the firstling; he bore a body not in appearance but in truth derived from Mary the Mother of God” (Letter to All Non-Egyptian Bishops 12 [A.D. 324]).
“While the old man [Simeon] was thus exultant, and rejoicing with exceeding great and holy joy, that which had before been spoken of in a figure by the prophet Isaiah, the holy Mother of God now manifestly fulfilled” (Oration on Simeon and Anna 7 [A.D. 305]).
“Hail to you forever, you virgin Mother of God, our unceasing joy, for unto you do I again return. . . . Hail, you fount of the Son’s love for man. . . . Wherefore, we pray you, the most excellent among women, who boast in the confidence of your maternal honors, that you would unceasingly keep us in remembrance. O holy Mother of God, remember us, I say, who make our boast in you, and who in august hymns celebrate your memory, which will ever live, and never fade away” (ibid., 14).
Cyril of Jerusalem
“The Father bears witness from heaven to his Son. The Holy Spirit bears witness, coming down bodily in the form of a dove. The archangel Gabriel bears witness, bringing the good tidings to Mary. The Virgin Mother of God bears witness” (Catechetical Lectures 10:19 [A.D. 350]).
Ephraim the Syrian
“Though still a virgin she carried a child in her womb, and the handmaid and work of his wisdom became the Mother of God” (Songs of Praise 1:20 [A.D. 351]).
“The Word begotten of the Father from on high, inexpressibly, inexplicably, incomprehensibly, and eternally, is he that is born in time here below of the Virgin Mary, the Mother of God” (The Incarnation of the Word of God 8 [A.D. 365]).
Epiphanius of Salamis
“Being perfect at the side of the Father and incarnate among us, not in appearance but in truth, he [the Son] reshaped man to perfection in himself from Mary the Mother of God through the Holy Spirit” (The Man Well-Anchored 75 [A.D. 374]).
Ambrose of Milan
“The first thing which kindles ardor in learning is the greatness of the teacher. What is greater than the Mother of God? What more glorious than she whom Glory Itself chose?” (The Virgins 2:2 [A.D. 377]).
Gregory of Nazianz
“If anyone does not agree that holy Mary is Mother of God, he is at odds with the Godhead” (Letter to Cledonius the Priest 101 [A.D. 382]).
“As to how a virgin became the Mother of God, he [Rufinus] has full knowledge; as to how he himself was born, he knows nothing” (Against Rufinus 2:10 [A.D. 401]).
“Do not marvel at the novelty of the thing, if a Virgin gives birth to God” (Commentaries on Isaiah 3:7:15 [A.D. 409]).
Theodore of Mopsuestia
“When, therefore, they ask, ‘Is Mary mother of man or Mother of God?’ we answer, ‘Both!’ The one by the very nature of what was done and the other by relation” (The Incarnation 15 [A.D. 405]).
Cyril of Alexandria
“I have been amazed that some are utterly in doubt as to whether or not the holy Virgin is able to be called the Mother of God. For if our Lord Jesus Christ is God, how should the holy Virgin who bore him not be the Mother of God?” (Letter to the Monks of Egypt 1 [A.D. 427]).
Ha ha ha! Soriano should be embarrassed because his lies are refuted. Ha ha! I can go on and on and present more evidence that the term “Mother of God” was in use from as early as the first century. Soriano is lying and should repent for bearing false witness. He is a good example of how logic and history can be twisted to mislead people. Woe to his blind followers.
Soriano is not aware also that Church Councils do not gather to define doctrines but to defend and affirm doctrine.Before the 431AD, heretics called Nestrorians were rejecting Mary as “Mother of God”. They were misleading people against this truth which led to the Council of Ephesus. The point of the Council of Ephesus was to defend who the person of Christ is. He is truly God and truly man, it is interesting to note in talking with anti-Catholics how they like to refer to this Catholic Council.
It is like they recognize that Jesus was born of Mary, but not His Divinity, only his humanity. In the same breath, they will believe that Jesus is God, at least those who are more orthodox.
“the very time foretold by the apostles when heresies and doctrines of devils will abound”
These heresies and doctrines of devils are like your false doctrines of telling people to drink urine, women not going to heaven unless they become men, Jesus being God but not human etc like your teach your brainwashed followers. You are one heretic. Here are others of your fellow heretics and their heresies which were refuted and condemned on this very issue;
Arianism: Denial of the true divinity of Jesus Christ taking various specific forms, but all agreed that Jesus Christ was created by the Father, that he had a beginning in time, and that the title “Son of God” was a courtesy one.
Docetism: Belief that Jesus’ physical body was an illusion, as was his crucifixion; that is, Jesus only seemed to have a physical body and to physically die, but in reality he was incorporeal, a pure spirit, and hence could not physically die.
Macedonians: While accepting the divinity of Jesus Christ as affirmed at Nicea in 325, they denied that of the Holy Spirit which they saw as a creation of the Son, and a servant of the Father and the Son. Does George Lujack come to mind?
Monophysitism: Belief that Christ’s divinity dominates and overwhelms his humanity, as opposed to the Chalcedonian position which holds that Christ has two natures, one divine and one human or the Miaphysite position which holds that the human nature and pre-incarnate divine nature of Christ were united as one divine human nature from the point of the Incarnation onwards.
Monothelitism: Belief that Jesus Christ had two natures but only one will. This is contrary to the orthodox interpretation of Christology, which teaches that Jesus Christ has two wills (human and divine) corresponding to his two natures. This one really challenges the Oneness groups because they could never understand that Jesus human will would be subjective to the Father’s will.
Nestorianism: Belief that emphasizes the disunion between the human and divine natures of Jesus. Nestorius’ teachings became the root of controversy when he publicly challenged the long-used title Theotokos (Bringer forth of God) for the Virgin Mary. He suggested that the title denied Christ’s full humanity, arguing instead that Jesus had two persons, the divine Logos and the human Jesus. As such he proposed Christotokos (Bringer forth of Christ) as a more suitable title for Ma
The anti-Catholics like rapist Soriano ignores the constant apostolic tradition to a fault, they miss so much because they refuse to recognize the truth of the gospel handed down 2,000 years. They choose to hold onto their own personal opinions other than the truth of faith handed down by Apostles and their successors/disciples.
“Mother of God is different from “Mother of my Lord.”Indeed, the term “mother of God” is a disgrace to Mary, and an insult and blasphemy to God! Specifically,Mary was called by her kin, Elisabeth, as “the mother of my Lord”.”
Stupid again! You are the disgrace because you are a homosexual rapist on the run from your crimes. If it is a disgrace, why did God chose her to be the Mother of our God Jesus? It is God who honored her Himself. The Angel even called her “Blessed” What is that to you? Are you jealousy of that Mama Eli? Do you feel bad that God did not chose your mother or yourself as His bearer? You are the insult and blasphemy because you are trying to lower down and lessen the importance of Mary in God’s plan of salvation. You are an anti-Christ and His blessed Mother.
“The word “Lord” is not always used to denote God but respect as in the case of Sarah. She called Abraham her lord as respect to him.”
This is nonsense and comical! Is Elizabeth implying “respect” in that verse? Where is that? It doesn’t matter whether Sarah called Abraham her lord-those are your insinuations. It is Elizabeth here addressing Mary. Notice that St. Elizabeth refereed to Mary as “blessed” twice during this exchange. Notice also that she refereed to Jesus as “Lord” in her womb as well as the word of the Lord.
Adoni was the word used here by Elizabeth to illustrate “Lord” referring to God. Check for it from the original texts and stop exposing your stupidity in the internet again.
“To sum it up, there is no such thing in the Bible as “mother of God.” Nowhere in all Bible translations can any Catholic authority find this term!”
Sorry Mama Eli. Mary as “Mother of God’ is Biblical and Patristic. You need to take courses in Biblical and Patristic evidence for Mary as Mother of God and stop imposing and exposing your lies. Jesus warned us about false Prophets and preachers like Mama Eli;
“Many false prophets will arise and deceive many; and because of the increase of evildoing, the love of many will grow cold. But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached throughout the world as a witness to all nations, and then the end will come.” (Matthew 24:11-14)
I love what Jesus said here, “And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached throughout the world as a witness to all nations”! Notice what St Paul states to the Church at Rome!
“First, I give thanks to my God through Jesus Christ for all of you, because your faith is heralded throughout the world…” (Romans 1)
The Catholic Church is a 2,000 year continuation, it is heralded throughout the world, it is His Kingdom being preached throughout the world and it is His witness to all nations! Your sect is just new bonafide dirty cult started in 1977.
The Church Jesus founded- the Catholic Church- from the very beginning held the Virgin Mary with high honor for her role in Salvation.It is like the opponents of Mary like this rapist Soriano who refuse to admit that she had anything to do with it? It is through her yes that the door was opened for all of us.
“In the face of this truth, the intent of the use of the rosary falls! “
No truth from you Mama Eli. You are only spreading lies. Everything from your is false and misleading. Next time do not repeat your lies.We shall refute them easily. WE ARE READY FOR YOU! Make no mistake about that. The prayer of the Rosary is taken from parts of Scripture as we join together the words of the Angel Gabriel at the Annunciation (Luke 1:28) together with Elizabeth’s greeting to Mary at the Visitation (Luke 1:42).The Rosary is such a powerful weapon that St.Dominic used to convert pagans of the Albegensian heresy. You are a pagan too and are afraid of the power of the Rosary.
“Furthermore, the Lord Jesus Christ prohibits Christians to pray repetitiously.More so, counting them as though numbers would matter.”
If Jesus prohibits repetitious prayers, why did He pray repetitiously? Here is the evidence;
We see this at Gethsemane, Jesus says (Matthew 26:36 – 44) ” Father if possible, let this cup pass me by. Nevertheless, let it be as you, not i would have it” we notice here that it tells that Christ went away praying for the THIRD TIME REPEATING THE SAME WORDS.”
What is that Mama Eli? Ha ha ha!
When the blind man said repetitious prayers for healing in Matthew 20;31, didn’t Jesus restore his sight? Did Jesus condemn him for repeating prayers? Dear Mama Eli, you are ignorant of the fact that repetitious prayer is Biblical and that to Pray means to ask. Even the Angels in heaven never cease to praise using the same words before God day and night(Revelation 4:8)
God Does NOT listen to the words of Men but to their hearts, For He even spoke to his people saying ” These people honor me with their lips but their hearts are far from me” (Matthew 15:8) , from this we know that God knows our hearts and He seeks to converse with our hearts (our eternal souls) in prayer.
“Note that He did not call Mary “mother” but “woman.” The same thing happened in Cana of Galilee.
JOHN 2:1-4 1 And the third day there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and the mother of Jesus was there: 2 And both Jesus was called, and his disciples, to the marriage. 3 And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine. 4 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, what have I to do with thee? mine hour is not yet come.
Throughout His earthly ministry, the Lord Jesus practicing His Lordship over Christians, never called Mary his “mother.”
And so this proves………….what? Ha ha! No thanks but no thanks. You are comical indeed Mama Eli. Is Jesus not calling Mary “mother” negate the fact that Mary is the Mother of Jesus? Do you really know the Bible Mama Eli?
If you are not stupid Mama Eli, the term Woman recalls the proto-evangelium in the Book of Genesis:
‘I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her seed; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel (Gen. 3:15).’
Jesus also uses Woman again at the Crucifixion when he gives his Mother to John to be John’s Mother, and by extension the Mother of all Christians.
In the ancient world, Woman was a title of respect (we see this from Antony is said to have called Cleopatra “Woman”) and can be considered roughly equivalent to calling a modern noblewoman “Lady” or “Madam”. By calling his Mother “Woman,” Jesus was showing Mary great respect and dignity.
Jesus, as an obedient Son who fulfilled the Torah perfectly, would never have spoken irreverently to his mother. His perfect fulfillment of the Torah includes a perfect fulfillment of the command, “Honor your father and mother,” which in the literal Hebrew is “Glorify your father and mother.” Soriano’s explanations are irrelevant and misleading. For Catholics wanting a comprehensive and factual explanation on this issue, follow this link;
“The first century Christians did not use any form of rosary.”
Ha ha! This is a lie. Let us expose this liar of a rapist. The Rosary was being prayed since the early Church, however saints like St Dominic, Blessed Alan De La Roche, St Tomas Aquinas and other Saints and Popes of the Church throughout the ages by their example and Wisdom helped to increase Knowledge and love of this most powerful of prayer, the Rosary. Various means of counting prayers have been used in Christianity since the early church. A fourth-century hermit named Paul is recorded as having tossed a pebble into a pile for each of his 300 daily Our Fathers. Later monks kept track of prayers on knotted cords, and in the 11th century the cords were replaced by beads of wood or clay.
From the earliest times of Christianity it has been the custom of the Christians to observe in their prayers method and perseverance. Thus it was the custom of the Hermits of the Orient, as far back as the fourth century, to devise a sequence of certain prayers, which they counted on pebbles.
it is also a historical fact that long ago in England a so-called Paternoster-cord was used for this purpose. St. Gregory, at the end of the fourth century, spoke of such a method of devotion in veneration of the Blessed Virgin Mary. This pious bishop thought a wreath of spiritual roses would be more pleasing to the Blessed Virgin than the natural roses with which the faithful adorned her altar. He selected, therefore, a number of prayers, in praise of the blessed Virgin, and united them into a wreath. And this was the origin of the Rosary, woven by pious hands for the veneration of Mary, the mystical rose.
Dear Mama Eli, your lies are stinking and you feel bad. People who know facts like me can not be easily tripped by your lies and stupidities. We shall refute you no matter how desperately your attack.
“Lies really do reinforce each other. They are jolly cousins, attesting to blinded minds that the Bible talks about. “
Dear Mama Eli, from this confutation, it is clear that these are your lies which reinforce each other. No matter how you try to attach each lie onto another, we shall deconstruct them and every one of your deception will crumble. You are too blind and your followers are blind too because you are liars and heretics. Even some Protestant scholars recognize the beauty of the Rosary.Look at their testimonies;
J. Neville Ward, a Methodist minister, praises the Rosary as an excellent aid to prayer and mediation . He states that protestants lost much in not adopting this traditional Catholic method of devotion.
Dr. James A Beebe, a Methodist theologian , says that Protestant prayer suffered because it lacked a system of controlled meditation. He said thatt he Catholic Rosary, with its definite symbols, held the mind, and he urged other churches to utilize this method of Prayer.
Many other Protestants have discovered the priceless treasures of the Rosary.For example, a former minister, after having read The Secrets of the Rosary and the Sign of her heart, was so edified that he accepted the Brown Scapular and Taught himself how to pray the Rosary, made Rosaries and Scapulars and inspired other Protestants to accept these Sacramentals.He later became a Catholic Priest.
“On this score, I challenge all Catholic authorities! If they are sport enough to accept the truth, they should confess that the rosary is an invention of Catholic authorities. “
No thanks but no thanks. You did not score any single point Mama Eli. Instead you proved that you are stupid, a liar and charlatan pretending to be wise. I have challenged you now by refuting all your lies- line by line,sentence by sentence and word for word. It is now your turn to challenge my refutation of your nonsense and garbage. Sorry, we can not confess anything because you claims are regurgitated lies that only dogs like yours followers can take. Your nonsense is not news to us.
For starters,the Nestorians heretics, just like this rapist Soriano, rejected Mary as Mother of God and were refuted and defeated. In truth, the doctrine is all about Jesus, but Mary is being venerated because she is in fact Jesus Mother.
Some people like this rapist Soriano have tried to mislead others that Catholics worship Mary because of the Rosary by using many lies and distortions such as that the Church deifies Mary with such titles. However, anyone who evaluates the reality of this teaching will find this is a great abuse of misrepresentation trying to spread hatred for the Church.
In conclusion, I encourage Protestants like this Soriano to really take a good look at what the Catholic Church is teaching than spreading lies and stupidities. God bless every one of us!